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Shuffling machines

Posted By: meredy
Date: 22 Apr 03, 7:24 pm

In Response To: You think? (D)

In Cali a few months back, they started a new game at the "grand opening" of a few tables with machines. They were going to try them out. Over the next few weeks, I heard players (mostly squares) mouthing off about the machines. One guy thought it was a conspiracy!?!? I understand the "hesitation" of something new like this, but as I sat there and listened to people at the table I realized that if they lost a hand, they suddenly hated the machine! If they won a hand, they didn't say anything (except maybe, "Hey dealer, should I tip the machine instead of you?"). IMO, players will now just blame the machines (and the dealer), instead of just the dealer when they catch bad breaks. I guess the great thing about a deck of cards is that it really doesn't matter WHO (or WHAT) shuffles. If the shuffle is thorough, then EVERYONE will get their fair share of breaks, bad beats, etc over the long haul. Admittedly, when I first saw the machines, I was like, "Hmmmmmm! I dunno about this!" But, when I saw other people's ridiculous reactions when they lost a hand, I decided that I didn't care if a monkey shuffled and dealt, as long as the shuffle is thorough and the deal is fair. I mean, do people really think that if THEY were allowed to shuffle (and closely watched, therefore the shuffle was fair), that they would do ANY BETTER???????????

Messages In This Thread

How does one go back to B&M after playing Online -- Ricky -- 21 Apr 03, 7:50 pm

Very true......just gotta try to be disciplined at the table -- meredy -- 21 Apr 03, 8:01 pm

Totally agree -- PerpetualCzech -- 21 Apr 03, 8:19 pm

I played B&M -- D -- 21 Apr 03, 8:35 pm

B&M is slower but there are perks -- Tekari -- 22 Apr 03, 12:54 am

I'd never want to get used to "live" -- jeh -- 22 Apr 03, 2:32 am

People have mixed feelings... -- Tekari -- 23 Apr 03, 10:53 am

The Economics of Online vs B&M -- uvaRick -- 22 Apr 03, 4:02 am

I agree- for the most part -- D -- 22 Apr 03, 11:37 am

WSEX dying out :-( -- jeh -- 22 Apr 03, 3:46 pm

WSEX -- D -- 22 Apr 03, 5:28 pm

WSEX -- Ricky -- 22 Apr 03, 6:31 pm

not just one player -- jeh -- 22 Apr 03, 6:38 pm

There were two guys- -- D -- 22 Apr 03, 6:49 pm

i'm not talking about 30-60 (nt) -- Ricky -- 22 Apr 03, 7:26 pm

Yeah- didnt think you were -- D -- 22 Apr 03, 7:36 pm

i heard about that site...pissed me off i couldn't get on (nt) -- Ricky -- 22 Apr 03, 7:40 pm

Question to ALL on line players; RE: collusion. -- frank s. -- 22 Apr 03, 6:35 pm

It HAS to be a concern- -- D -- 22 Apr 03, 6:55 pm

What are reputable on-line poker sites? (nt) -- frank s. -- 22 Apr 03, 7:25 pm

I like Planet alot -- Ricky -- 22 Apr 03, 7:31 pm

I can only name- -- D -- 22 Apr 03, 7:42 pm

one of my favorites... -- Tekari -- 23 Apr 03, 9:47 am

I would have to agree with you on this. You could have 6 seats at the game -- Doc -- 25 Apr 03, 5:34 pm

Yes, it would be very easy to do ... -- PerpetualCzech -- 26 Apr 03, 2:42 am

WSEX is a perfect high limit place -- Ricky -- 22 Apr 03, 7:50 pm

I agree 100% -- D -- 22 Apr 03, 7:54 pm

big stakes right now at WSEX.... -- jeh -- 22 Apr 03, 8:02 pm

If i sit down your 25-30/hr......... -- D -- 22 Apr 03, 8:16 pm

I was a beginner that started out playing -- toad -- 22 Apr 03, 2:54 pm

Table shufflers -- David Matthews -- 22 Apr 03, 3:46 pm

That's becoming very prevalent in Cali as well (nt) -- meredy -- 22 Apr 03, 4:14 pm

They have them at select tables at the Bellagio- as well (nt) -- D -- 22 Apr 03, 5:47 pm

that's a great thing! (nt) -- Ricky -- 22 Apr 03, 6:31 pm

You think? -- D -- 22 Apr 03, 6:46 pm

Shuffling machines -- meredy -- 22 Apr 03, 7:24 pm

machines -- Ricky -- 22 Apr 03, 7:33 pm

Non-human shuffle -- D -- 22 Apr 03, 7:56 pm

all this poker talk has got me playin ub again -- toad -- 22 Apr 03, 8:18 pm

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