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I have a minor concern

Posted By: jeh
Date: 3 May 03, 3:06 pm

In Response To: Its time to ignore these posts (D)

At my main site, which I will not mention specifically (but it should be pretty easy to figure out from my prior posts), I've recently found the opposite of what MT expects: the site is TOO paranoid about on-line cheating, and often jumps to conclusions that are completely illogical and burdensome to the players involved. Not too long ago, a player I know who had AA24 in a 20-40 Omaha 8 full table at this site, and timed out and went all-in PRE-flop when the betting got back around to him.....he had one bet involved so far, since someone else had raised. So, he owed another 20 into a large pre-flop pot.....obviously, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to see that the last thing he'd want to do is time out here, and only have 20 invested in such a positive situation. Hell, he probably would have re-raised. For some reason, someone at the table reported this as all-in abuse....the site reviewed the hand, and decided that this WAS the case here. Comical. And when he told me that he responded to them about how ridiculous their reasoning was, he got no response from management. Granted I don't know his prior history of all-ins, but there is no way they could justify doing anything based on this particular hand. And, there are certain people (like Czech) who I simply just trust, based on a long history of prior play with them and my instincts about their character. This was one of those players.

In addition, I recently had a strange happening at one of my tables as well...was sitting alone at 10-20, and some guy sat down with $400 and did some strange things heads-up....basically handing me the entire amount quickly by folding most of hands no matter what he had. Granted, this was very strange and suspicious......BUT, I had been playing at this site and at their sportsbook for ages, and usually for stakes higher than those (especially in the sportsbook.) At this point in my relationship with that site, I would've thought they'd assume that there's no way I would have someone illictly hand me just 400 bucks...I mean, come on. Not the case...my account was disabled for days as they ramsacked through every ounce of my past play.....all for a few 10-20 hands that hurt no one, since we were playing heads-up.

While I'm glad that this site is trying so hard to prevent cheating, I am concerned that seem to be using such little common sense in detecting it. In a quick amount of time, two trustworthy players have been sent through the gauntlet for no reason....and if it happened to us, it might be happening to others as well. If the management is that unprofessional and unskilled at this detection, it's not a good sign for the players there.

Messages In This Thread

For SSB Poker Night Participants! (important) -- David Matthews -- 30 Apr 03, 3:01 am

Party Poker (and probably other internet poker sites) -- Hunch_Player -- 30 Apr 03, 7:23 am

shills at a free money table? (nt) -- Tekari -- 30 Apr 03, 8:32 am

It's plausible -- PerpetualCzech -- 30 Apr 03, 9:39 am

No one who knows enough to cheat you at a $1/$2 game would bother (nt) -- Math Boy -- 30 Apr 03, 12:46 pm

Think again -- MT -- 30 Apr 03, 2:54 pm

Too bad if you never played online, you are missing out on lots of fun -- PerpetualCzech -- 30 Apr 03, 7:37 pm

not true, and it is not the risks, but the prob of getting caught that vary -- MT aka Card Playa -- 1 May 03, 7:16 am

Your opinion comes from a very weak position -- PerpetualCzech -- 1 May 03, 8:29 am

excuse me... -- MT aka Card Playa -- 1 May 03, 2:10 pm

Or maybe- -- D -- 1 May 03, 2:29 pm

MT you don't know what your talking about -- Tekari -- 1 May 03, 5:42 pm

Response -- PerpetualCzech -- 1 May 03, 7:12 pm

Its time to ignore these posts -- D -- 1 May 03, 9:54 pm

Fair enough, you're right (nt) -- PerpetualCzech -- 2 May 03, 12:44 am

Has 2 + 2 gotten bad? (nt) -- David Matthews -- 2 May 03, 5:28 pm

2+2 -- D -- 2 May 03, 7:23 pm

I have a minor concern -- jeh -- 3 May 03, 3:06 pm

interesting post -- MT -- 3 May 03, 3:13 pm

"where is the middle of the road in your opinion?" -- D -- 3 May 03, 7:14 pm

I have heard a similar story, very interesting -- PerpetualCzech -- 3 May 03, 7:26 pm

I agree, but..... -- jeh -- 3 May 03, 7:41 pm

Come to think of it....Paradise should know better -- jeh -- 3 May 03, 7:54 pm

No argument here (nt) -- PerpetualCzech -- 3 May 03, 7:59 pm

You need a sense of scale. -- Math Boy -- 1 May 03, 4:34 am

math boy good points... -- MT handed -- 1 May 03, 2:19 pm

I think the SSB poker game will be about as safe as can be -- David Matthews -- 1 May 03, 2:54 pm

I know -- MT -- 2 May 03, 4:50 pm

Lol -- D -- 1 May 03, 2:32 pm

try these instead -- MT -- 3 May 03, 3:07 pm

Gee, think about it for a moment -- MT -- 30 Apr 03, 3:47 pm

that is why there is no rake on most sites on play money tables (nt) -- Tekari -- 30 Apr 03, 4:36 pm

agreed (nt) -- MT aka Card Playa -- 1 May 03, 7:17 am

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