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come on now

Posted By: Ricky
Date: 28 Jul 03, 6:45 am

In Response To: Disagree completely. (Warren Ball)

"Even if Pittman can't play (and he may), there are plenty of very good running backs in Tampa. FB Alstott is an All-Pro. Backups like Stecker are very underrated and the Bucs just got a steal in a trade for a RB from Arizona. They are solid and deep at RB."

That's too optimistic. Just because you have alot of RBs doesn't mean they are good. You can be deep and still suck.

Alstott is not a Fullback, we all know that. The fact he makes it in as a Pro Bowl Fullback is a total joke. So let's throw the Pro Bowl appearances out the window, it is meaningless for him. With all that said, Alstott is a decent back that fumbles too much, and has a weak Yards/Carry. 3.8, 4.1, 3.5, 3.9, 3.9, 3.8, 3.9 in his career...nothing special. There were 12 Running backs in the NFC alone that had more than 200 carries last year that outrushed Alstott on a Yds/Carry. Bennett, Barber, Hearst, Faulk, Stewart, Green, McAllister, Dunn, Alexander, Davis, Emmitt (for god sakes), Staley, then Alstott.

Guess where Thomas Jones ranks there? RIGHT BEHIND ALSTOTT at 3.7. And where's Pittman, if he can play? EVEN WORSE!!!! 3.5.

Let's face it. These RBs maybe ok, but if you combine them with the offensive line (and that really is the question, the whole running game, not necessarily each back individually)...they are one of the worst in the league.

Can they improve on that? Sure they can, but I would not call them anything better than subpar running attack.

Messages In This Thread

Give Me One reason why Tampa won't repeat? -- Sean Manning -- 28 Jul 03, 2:25 am

Take them, but... -- Shadow -- 28 Jul 03, 3:36 am

1. Michael Pittman, 2.weak saftey 3.oh yeah NO OFFENSE (nt) -- papa joe -- 28 Jul 03, 4:32 am

Disagree completely. -- Warren Ball -- 28 Jul 03, 5:08 am

come on now -- Ricky -- 28 Jul 03, 6:45 am

You're too hard on the RB's -- Warren Ball -- 28 Jul 03, 6:58 am

I agree! (nt) -- Buc's #1 Fan -- 28 Jul 03, 7:04 am

Fullbacks -- Ricky -- 28 Jul 03, 7:06 am

I'm sorry that you consider my disagreement as an attack. -- Warren Ball -- 28 Jul 03, 12:56 pm

offensive line -- ricky -- 28 Jul 03, 3:26 pm

There is definite improvement -- Warren Ball -- 29 Jul 03, 3:42 am

any Bucs fans around here? :o) nm (nt) -- Mr. Tomasulo -- 29 Jul 03, 4:32 am

Yeah but we homers know quite a bit about the team -- Warren Ball -- 29 Jul 03, 10:43 am

Are you related to A. Silverstone???? -- Billy Ford -- 29 Jul 03, 3:54 am

I don't get your humor -- Warren Ball -- 29 Jul 03, 4:03 am

you never saw the movie "Clueless?" -- Billy Ford -- 29 Jul 03, 5:07 am

Yeah I saw it but she's been in a lot of movies -- Warren Ball -- 29 Jul 03, 10:51 am

are you ok? -- Jeff Jones -- 30 Jul 03, 2:37 pm

reasons why TB will not repeat -- Ricky -- 28 Jul 03, 7:02 am

No one really knows whether they will repeat or not -- Overlay -- 28 Jul 03, 8:56 am

20% is way too optimistic IMO -- rcdavies -- 28 Jul 03, 9:48 am

You're probably right. I'll back off -- Overlay -- 28 Jul 03, 11:10 am

Excellent points in this & your previous post. -- Warren Ball -- 28 Jul 03, 1:09 pm

Giants -- Ricky -- 28 Jul 03, 3:53 pm

doubts -- Mr. Tomasulo -- 28 Jul 03, 4:21 pm

They heavily upgraded their weaknesses -- Warren Ball -- 29 Jul 03, 3:47 am

No one really knows whether they will repeat or not -- Jeff Jones -- 30 Jul 03, 2:41 pm

And here I thought you appreciated irony (nt) -- Overlay -- 31 Jul 03, 6:24 am

That wasn't really Jeff Jones -- Colin Caster -- 3 Aug 03, 7:27 pm

Disagree again. -- Warren Ball -- 28 Jul 03, 1:19 pm

Value of the NFL draft -- Ricky -- 28 Jul 03, 3:50 pm

Again, Tampa was young to start with -- Warren Ball -- 29 Jul 03, 3:56 am

Gruden coaching philosophy -- Cutter -- 28 Jul 03, 9:32 am

Royals -- Ricky -- 28 Jul 03, 12:50 pm

Yes I did actually. -- Cutter -- 28 Jul 03, 1:28 pm

Couldn't find it. Oh well (nt) -- Ricky -- 28 Jul 03, 3:32 pm

So when Carolina gets a wilcard this year... -- Cutter -- 29 Jul 03, 12:13 pm

Neither could I. -- Cutter -- 29 Jul 03, 12:31 pm

No Problem -- Ricky -- 29 Jul 03, 12:54 pm

USE GOOGLE AND "Kansas City" you'll get it right top duhhh (nt) -- Jeff Jones -- 30 Jul 03, 2:43 pm

Rams may not collapse for them again -- Mr. Tomasulo -- 28 Jul 03, 11:36 am

TB +3.5 / +3 at PHI? -- Ricky -- 28 Jul 03, 12:53 pm

The spread is only because of home field and revenge factor. -- Warren Ball -- 28 Jul 03, 1:03 pm

3 for home, .5 for revenge. that means they are equal -- ricky -- 28 Jul 03, 3:28 pm

The market is not such a strong source this early -- Warren Ball -- 29 Jul 03, 3:49 am

Thanks Warren -- Ricky -- 29 Jul 03, 4:03 am

ricky i agree with ya -- Billy Ford -- 29 Jul 03, 4:04 am

No Respect -- Trisk -- 28 Jul 03, 3:51 pm

Big Difference between NE/PITT & PHIL/TB -- Ben Dover -- 29 Jul 03, 4:05 am

lol (nt) -- Mr. Tomasulo -- 29 Jul 03, 4:32 am

Weed -- Trisk -- 30 Jul 03, 5:32 am

Enjoy living in last year, I laid -2.5-125 (nt) -- Ben Dover -- 30 Jul 03, 12:49 pm

Hope u dont Bend Over on that play ;) (nt) -- Trisk -- 30 Jul 03, 1:36 pm

Bend Over and pick up the sloppy book's money off the floor (nt) -- Ben Dover -- 30 Jul 03, 4:08 pm

Phi to win by double digits, great reverse parlay game (nt) -- Jeff Jones -- 30 Jul 03, 2:45 pm

actually home field in NFL is worth 3pts so TB/PHI are even in oddsmaker -- Billy Ford -- 29 Jul 03, 4:00 am

Lack of hunger after winning (nt) -- TrendMan -- 28 Jul 03, 5:19 pm

CYCLES ALWAYS CHANGE -- Rick -- 28 Jul 03, 5:28 pm

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